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有個女仔swana

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發表於 2006-6-24 03:33:07 | 顯示全部樓層 |閱讀模式
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William.c:
為什麽這一欄好像停了不寫?我喜歡你講民主,雖然Z些地方不同意你講,但你有理論,請繼續寫。

新話題,有個女仔swana走上風簫簫,好似踢館咁,叫簫生同長毛道歉。我記得swana就性用詞問題插過你,你有乜評論?
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 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 04:09:01 | 顯示全部樓層
是的,swana是新一代女性,也是保守的Square head的代表。

住在加拿大,思想老套過係大陸。幾個月前在「風波裡的龍門陣」插我用性比喻行文不好。但這個女仔無知到連「白痴, 無知, 膚淺, 噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血, 昂居」都唔準人用,實在離譜。以下重刊有關贴文:
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 04:50:30 | 顯示全部樓層
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#82  As promised to our friend ifg here it is...

As promised to our friend ifg here it is...

For long Messer W.C. has been an interesting audience who seems to disagree with every viewpoint (with little exception) expressed by our hosts.  This is a reasonable outcome considering the controversial nature of the topic discussed.  Hence this open forum is the venue for audience to put forward facts, insights, interpretations and perspectives, all are welcomed.  

Due to the complexity of any political issue, where facts may be sketchy, and insights, interpretations and perspectives are highly subjective, should we not expect a civilized exchange, one focuses on basic facts and logical deduction, instead of one using colorful language of belittlement such as:  白痴, 無知, 膚淺, 噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血, 昂居 etc?   Can we not request that a minimum level of respect should prevail such that readers can sip through the argument without distracted by the emotional outburst?

Furthermore, should the female readers be continued to put up with the absurdity of ludicrous sexual innuendo like:

1. 「認知」和「行動」和「令到事態的形成」有很大的距離,.....

假如用性作舉例:男人---陽具---性慾---愛撫---勃起---性交---高潮。需要一個過程,前段是認知,後段是行動。(孫文是重塑男人階段,李敖是愛撫階段,六四是性交階段,民主黨是性慾階段)

2.  27/10風簫簫節目中,聽說會由黎則奮發起一次就政改方案的「公投」.....公投的價值及原則,我是讚成的,但就政改方案搞一次全港「公投行動」,而企圖得到它應有的效果,卻無異兒戲。

比如,我同意:
●你想跟林志玲(台灣名摸)上床;
但我不認為以下是實際的:
●你能跟林志玲(台灣名摸)上到床。
兩者之間還需要很大的努力。


Messer W.C., regardless of his knowledge and insight, has occurred to me as arrogance, vain, rude, most of all a downright worshipper of self-indulgence.  Self-indulgence by itself is harmless and even inspirational, miles and miles of ‘cut-and-paste’ can be challenging but informative; yet the judgmental language, forgive me, is trivial, unwarranted, inappropriate and very bad taste.

My previous post is intended, as a tiny dose of the same medicine Messer W.C. forced down people’s throat for all these times,  對人不對事 like you said.  Nevertheless may I ask ifg,  in your numerous postings, can you honestly in full consciousness declare that none of them carries not even a hint of  對人不對事?

We can argue on to world’s end as to the proper etiquette of forum discussion, the show will go on and Messer W.C. will continue to respond.  As such this side-show should end, since we’ve both made our point.
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 05:38:21 | 顯示全部樓層
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#83  昂居人叫我唔好用昂居的字眼!

喔,看到一大篇swana評論我貼文風格的文章,寫得很用心,我都看到了。對不起,好些問題我不能接受,我&#36148;文用字用語有令你不安者,我只有遺憾,但恕不負責,我&#36148;文不是為你所謂「高級品味」而寫的!

有人做字,我就可以用。無理由咁昂居(對唔住我又用了)你唔舒服我就要自己解除武裝!有人夠話唔中意看英文啦,咁你可以唔可以唔用英文丫?

有人做出字,我就可以用。表達自由大於你閣下的什&#40637;品味標準!

只有一個限制標準,不寫廣東話的粗言穢語------其實亦不至於天會塌下來,「搞」、「弄」都是外省粗話,你又唔準用呀?你聽過兩個節目主持人講粗口未?又唔見你抗議?反過來干涉我用「白痴, 無知, 膚淺, 噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血, 昂居」----大佬,用「無知, 膚淺、噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血,」都話唔&#21873;?有人係咪「白痴, 無知, 膚淺, 昂居」?

此外,就是被動的不可用,例如犯法文字,及犯版&#35268;文字。此外,天皇老子都阻礙不到我用什麼字。比如,你也有權用「has occurred to me as arrogance, vain, rude, most of all a downright worshipper of self-indulgence. 」來罵我一樣。我不高興(比喻),但不能怪&#36131;你用字不當呀!比喻你用劍斬我,我無可能話係把劍的錯咁昂居!
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 05:55:55 | 顯示全部樓層
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(From William.c)

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#84  有人不喜歡用性來比喻事物及問題

第二點,我用性來比喻事物及問題,犯乜法呀?有乜唔妥呀?你唔高興?大佬,你連「膚淺, 噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血」都話唔&#21873;,點睇你呀?

不要那&#40637;大鄉里了,用性來比喻事物及問題,是很平常的事,李敖以至&#40065;迅都用過。Swana,不是「性骯髒」,是「用性來比喻事物及問題」,你自己不要先將性看成骯髒,諗錯隔離,由此產生昂居的岐見,托名為品味!

OK,你說用性來比喻事物及問題不好,那請你用另一&#32452;用語來代替,而文字感染力(注意,不止於意思)又勝於我原句的,我就收回我的用句。比如你提這一&#32452;:

>>1. 「認知」和「行動」和「令到事態的形成」有很大的距離,.....
假如用性作舉例:男人---陽具---性慾---愛撫---勃起---性交---高潮。需要一個過程,前段是認知,後段是行動。(孫文是重塑男人階段,李敖是愛撫階段,六四是性交階段,民主黨是性慾階段)<<

(請注意,我標搒「假如用性作舉例」)

請你提一&#32452;勝過我的用語!
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 07:11:58 | 顯示全部樓層
sqaure head女仔不是大哂

講返 swana上風簫簫找回公道,完全是代溝,性格有距離。

●swana唔熟悉簫若元 & Co.的性格及脾性,如在娛樂圈來說,這些咸濕&#25598;著數語話,是小兒科。撞正swana是個square head,連「白痴, 無知, 膚淺, 噴血, 噴飯, 嘔血, 昂居」都唔準人用的square head,而且侵犯的就是她自己,豈不是火星撞地球。

●反之,簫若元口語侵犯swana,當時是有點以熟賣熟,講句笑句,是俾面Swana,但老簫揀錯對像,swana唔玩得。在市井語態的潛規&#21017;中,當一個女仔被人這樣"串"時,通常會回應:"你得唔得先?"而不是翻面。

●長毛本來是&#35303;圍,那知越幫越忙,純屬誤會。

●Swana當晚已call in抗議,二人當時也稍致歉意。正路來說,簫若元是失言,是不對的,但這是無傷大雅的失言。

●最兀突的是,Swana  sqaure head到底,不見好收,要上台踢館,那就顯得不成熟,搞到大家有點尷尬。

●迫簽城下盟,誰人也不服。老簫當時雖然再說了歉意話,但將Swana轉為swan,暗隊返轉頭,你Swana亦吹老簫唔漲。square head的人,雖是女仔,也不是大哂。
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 08:24:21 | 顯示全部樓層
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#257  Square head?

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Originally posted by william.c at 2006-6-24 13:10:
squre head女仔不是大哂

講返 swana上風簫簫找回公道,完全是代溝,性格有距離。
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係唔係想講 :square: head 呀?
好心唔好再玩 swana 啦 .... 佢 should be fully protected from now on and satisfied

我反而替亞 Swan or Shuan 等等擔心
 樓主| 發表於 2006-6-24 09:53:10 | 顯示全部樓層
更正:

squre head
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square head
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